MOTEL VOID: You’re from New England. Where exactly? And how would you describe the current music scene there? Do you feel that you’re part of it?
SAY SOMETHING IN THE MORNING: I grew up around Peekskill, NY in the Hudson Valley but I bounced around that area through my 20s. Eventually I felt like it was becoming too stifling and crowded/hip. The whole area has changed so much since I was a kid and I wanted to go somewhere quiet and uncool. In 2021 I bought an old farmhouse with my wife and brother in Southbury, Connecticut we have been fixing up. Thereās not much of a music scene in town, but Iām about 40 minutes from New Haven and thereās a lot going on there. In some ways I feel disconnected from that scene. Itās a lot of Connecticut emo, and I grew up listening to emo music mainly, and it has had some kind of influence on what I want to do and plan on doing with this project.
MOTEL VOID: Could you recommend your favorite local artists and venues?
SAY SOMETHING IN THE MORNING: Local artists, well I would have to mention my friend Bobby Dyckman who is a great performer and asked me to play a show one night, I might take him up on that if I can get a band together. And thereās a band called Arms Like Roses based out of New Haven as well. Incredible stage presence. Almost mesmerizing.
Venues – I spent most of my time at The Chance and the loft in Poughkeepsie, which sadly just closed. Thatās where I met my friend Jayce from Secret Secret Dino Club. I was a 19 year old kid with a video camera who wanted to make a living doing something with music videography. He took me under his wing and all around the country, to England, out to LA. I met my wife Kayla Loren through him, and through her met my friend Max and my producer Joe. This is before I ever even picked up a guitar, but I owe the trajectory of the last decade of my life to that venue in some ways.
MOTEL VOID: You’ve just released a great new single ‘Deny Deny Deny’. Could you tell us more about the recording and writing process? Will it be a part of you new album?
SAY SOMETHING IN THE MORNING: I was standing by this old window frame on our house fixing it up when the melody popped into my head, I usually start writing with a vocal melody of sounds or made up words and then try to find what would fit into that. Thatās how most songs start. This one was a bit different in that I recorded a demo in my attic, and then brought it to Joe and re-recorded it. He has a studio in Beacon so Iāll go there and play all these instruments, sometimes Iāll go and just play one thing and we will sit for a few hours and talk about whatever. Heās a great friend.
Most of my writing is stream of consciousness and I am a big fan of Jack Kerouac, he is a personal hero of mine. But for this one I changed some of the lyrics after, to give it some kind of story and make it less metaphorical. So itās a bit more straight forward. The old version of the song has a 2 minute instrumental outro, and I was listening to it one day and thought this is too strange and meandering, so I wrote the ending last. Itās a nice song, I think it captures what I was trying to do with this project at the outset sonically. Itās very rough and imperfect, shrill, kind of wild carnival music. I had a visual in my head of some kind of weird broken freak show / parade moving through a field, and that captures that image, for me at least.
This was originally supposed to be a part of a larger album but Iām probably gonna scrap everything else I worked on. It feels so distant from where I was when I wrote all these other songs. I have changed as a person even in just a year. I work for the railroad now and was thinking about how almost everything exists in a state of transit. So I think Iāll take some time and write something else I feel like I connect with more. My process is slow. Iāll remake something over and over and then throw it out, itās my biggest weakness. My producer Joe Costable has done a great job of saying āno this is a bad idea, you shouldnāt do thatā and there have been times where I should have listened to his advice. So itās all a learning process.
MOTEL VOID: Your plans and goals for 2024?
SAY SOMETHING IN THE MORNING: I donāt think about this stuff too much, whatever happens is gonna happen weather I think about it or not, because the unconscious mind usually makes decisions for you. I already know the answers but, Iām gonna only know that I know them after the fact. If that makes sense.


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